Today I finally finished the Barient 16 winch rebuild class.

Today I finally finished the Barient 1
6 winch rebuild class and added it to the Barient 10 winch rebuild class. Check it out at www.svdoric.com/trainingrent a car bulgaria and tell me what you think. If you log in as a guest you will be able to read all the class information, but you can’t take any of the tests or comment in the bulletin.

I have been very busy in the business side of my life lately. Not much time for personal computers, or boats. But hopefully soon I will be back to what I love.

Barient winch maintenance training website

I found very little information on the web about barient winches.  So with the information I did find I started to rebuild my winches.  Now that I have accomplished rebuilding my barient winches I am creating a website to help you gain some experience before you start on your barient winches.  There are web resources, parts lists, tool requirements, steps, pictures, and a few movies.  Have a look and tell me if you would like anything else added. 

I have opened the Barient 10 winch class, and I’m working on the Barient 16 winch class. 

Have fun sailors!

www.svdoric.com/training

Barient 10 winch rebuild

 

I finally got some time off work and bought an 18V impact wrench (by Ryobi).  I needed it to remove the winches off of the mast.  There is no telling how long they have been on there.  But I broke two tips removing three winches.  That could give you an idea why I needed the impact wrench.  That and I did find anti seize on the threads and they where still frozen in place.  I think these winches have not been serviced in a while, a long while.  I also found water in every winch.  Good thing I decided to take them apart and do a full rebuild. 

To rebuild a Barient 10 winch

Dissasembly

On the very top of the winch is a ring labeled Barient 10.  You can see the top of the main shaft coming through the top of the ring.  Around the main shaft just on top of the ring and holding it on is a snap ring.  The snap ring runs around the the main shaft twice inside a groove.  The easiest way I have found to remove the snap ring without damaging it too much is to use a very small common screwdriver and hook the little tab on the very end of the snap ring and pull it out just enough to clear the groove in the main shaft.  Then pull the snap ring end up until is starts to unwind.  As soon as it starts to unwind pull it up and around at the same time.  This will unwind it instead of pulling it up which will streach the snap ring and make it unusable.

After the snap ring is off the drum can be lifted off.  Watch the one main bearing between the main shaft and the drum, it can come out at this time and fall.  Also watch the ring labeled Barient 10.  Now that the snap ring is off it can and will fall off. 

After the drum is off remove the ring labeled Barient 10 and stow it safely.  Also remove the two pawls and springs and stow safely.  Be carefull the springs are very small and on my winches the pawls where completly caked in grease hiding the spring which sits in a grove in the middle of the circular part of the pawl.  It would be very easy to not even notice the spring falling out and quietly bouncing overboard.  That is until you tried to re-assemble.  If you notice the pawls are covered in grease that is a sign that there was too much grease put on last time.  Grease can cause the pawl to become slow and maybe even stick.  A stuck pawl can cause the winch to release load suddenly with no warning as the one remaining pawl fails.  A very dangerous situation.  So I suggest you watch the pawls as you disasemble and use the presence of grease to remind you to be easy with the grease anywhere it can end up on the pawls.

Now comes the fun part.  You need to remove the base of the winch from the boat.  I used the Ryobi 18V impact wrench to remove the 6 bolts from the mast.  I put the parts into a ziplock bag labeled with an indelible pen.  After cleaning the other winch parts I add them to the bag until time to rebuild the winch.

After the winch is free from the boat I suggest you take everything somewhere safe where small parts won’t go splash.  It is almost impossible to find parts for a barient winch these days so be careful.

Next remove the main bearing usually from inside the drum, but sometimes it is on the base still.  I use two paper towels to clean the bearing and set it asside.

Turn the base over and you will see the main shaft another ring and somewhere in the grease.  Using the same unwinding technique remove the lower snap ring. 

The main shaft is free to be removed now.

Now the ring can be removed and cleaned.

And then the two lower pawls and springs can be removed and cleaned.

Now using parafin lamp oil and a brush (I use an old tooth brush) wash and clean all parts.  Then let them dry completely before re-assembly.

Assembly

Using winch grease lightly grease the inside of the base (where the main shaft will go).  You want enough grease here because this will help keep water out of the base.  But don’t use too much since there are two pawls on the bottom of the base.  And you don’t want to get them covered with the excess grease.

Using oil only oil the pawls and sockets on the base.  Assemble the springs into the groves.  I hold the spring compressed with thumb and forefinger and insert the pawl into the base until my fingers get pushed out of the way by the base.  The spring is now (ususally) in position. 

Insert the main shaft into the base.  Position the gear teath on the main shaft toward the top of the winch.

Now install the lower ring onto the base.  It is seated properly if you can see the lower groove in the main shaft.

Next install the snap ring into the lower groove on the main shaft locking the lower ring and the lower pawls.

Next oil the upper pawls and the pawl sockets on the top of the drum.  Notice the gear groves on the head of the main shaft.  This is where the pawls will catch.  Insert the springs into the pawls and insert the pawls with springs into the top of the drum.  You want one pawl on top, one on the bottom.  The top pawl should point (and fold) to the left, and the bottom one should point (and fold) to the right.

Now install the base back onto the boat.

Press grease into the bearings and make sure to grease the ends of the bearings.  I usually get a medium sized goop of grease and spread it in one direction trying to not get any bubbles or empty spots.  Then I rotate the bearings with my fingers to distribute the grease around the bearing.  Then I goop on grease in the other direction and distribute the grease again.  The goal is to have the bearing surfaces evenly coated with grease, but not too much.  I wipe off a lot of grease with my fingers and scape it off my finger and back into the tub.  Leaving a coating of grease all over the bearing surface.  Now slide the bearing onto the base.

Now assemble the drum onto the base and main shaft being carefull not to push the upper pawls back out.  I fold the pawls in slightly with my fingers and then the drum will just slide onto the base.  Make sure to rotate the drum.  It should only rotate in one direction, and the pawls should click and lock in the other direction.

After checking the winch works properly install the top ring with the label Barient 10.  Then install the snap ring into the groove in the main shaft.

Check that it all works as expected.

Congratulations you just rebuilt your Barient 10 winch.

Jib sheet winch rebuild

Barient Stainless 35 winch Barient Stainless 35 winch Barient Stainless 35 winch parts  

 

Several months ago I started my first annual maintenance on my jib sheet winches.  I got one apart and found rusted gears, and some pawls that where frozen.  My brother has a machinist friend that wanted to take on the challenge of trying to free the pawls without hurting any part.
Since this is a Barient winch it has not been in production for quite some time and I found there are no parts available for servicing these winches.  Bad news.  The good news is I got the part back yesterday and it is bronze.  So with proper preventative maintenance these winches will last forever.  I did find where the water was getting into the winch.  It is traveling down the main shaft.  So when I put the port winch back together I packed that area with grease.  I really doubt much water will get in there for a year.  And since you are supposed to perform annual maintenance on winches it should do nicely.
I was really afraid that I wouldn’t be able to get the port winch back together.  So I left the starboard winch on the boat for a reference.  And that was all I needed.  Once my brothers friend did his magic on the parts (not a scratch, and the parts look better than new!)  I arranged them on the galley table along with my tools, winch grease, winch oil, and lots of shop towels.  I removed the starboard winch and put it upside down on the galley table in the corner where I could see the gears inside.  Then I started looking for gears that looked like the ones on the assembled winch.  In about 6 hours I had packed the bearings, greased the shafts, put a light coat of winch grease all over every gear, and assembled the entire thing.  I then installed the winch without the top on and greased the gears while turning to make sure the grease got distributed to all the gears.  Then I greased the ring gear on the winch top and installed that.  Everything works great.  So I removed the  the port winch again and put it upside down on the galley table.  Then I removed the starboard winch and took it apart.  Two of the gears have some light rust on them.  So I will have the magic performed on them.  The rest look in great shape, just caked in grease.  I am removing the grease and cleaning all the bearings.  Then I’ll assemble the starboard winch with the port winch as a reference.  It was all much easier than I expected.
I am so happy that a project is moving again.  It has been too long since there was forward momentum on the boat.  I have been way to busy at work.  It seems they think they own me.  HA!  The wind and the sea own me.  And there is no arguing with those two.  I feel the pull daily and it eats at me that I can’t move the boat right now.  But with a little forward momentum comes great hope.  And I am hoping the engine problem will be solved soon.  Then I can go back to what I truly love.  I can go sailing. 

FilterBOSS DFP500FG

Last night I received my new FilterBOSS model DFP500FG. Very cool! They packed it very well in blown in place foam in plastic bags. They even ship it under vacuum so you can see if any of the fittings have loosened. It seems bigger than I remember in the boat show. But it looks like it will fit perfectly where I intended to put it. I read the manual cover to cover last night and did a lot of thinking about where and how to mount it. I have decided in order to clean the tanks easier I need to isolate them. All three tanks are now one system with only one fuel return to the center tank and one fill hose. I will add two more fill hoses and deck fittings. I am going to put a four valve fuel manifold and direct the engine return fuel flow into one of the three tanks (the fourth is for the filter bleed return). And then use the valves on the tanks to pick which tank the fuel comes out of. I intend to mount the FilterBOSS on the board holding the tanks with the top of the mount just even with the bottom of the tanks. So it will be just under the tanks, and the tank valves. That should be just about perfect. The outlet will be just above the engine fuel inlet so all the fuel will be flowing down hill. Perfect. :D I am thinking of putting the fuel return valve manifold on the top left hand corner of the FilterBOSS mounting panel. That way it will be near the fuel tank selector valves, and easily accessed along with the filter change over valves as well as giving me enough room to clearly label each valve. This is working quite well so far. I am very pleased. More pictures will be posted as soon as I get something mounted and tubing installed so stay tuned.

Boat show results cont.

I was walking by the Boman booth and noticed some very strong hatches. I have always wanted some opening windows where I currently have two stationary windows. But I was unwilling to compromise the strength of non opening windows. These hatches look to be stronger than the stationary windows I have now. GREAT! :D My stationary windows are held in place with a rubber U-channel. These aluminum frames are very strong, and the glass is almost double the thickness as what I have in place. The joints are huge, and very strong as well as allowing 180 degree opening. VERY COOL! I am measuring and will be ordering two for the front windows. If that works well I may order two for the sides as well. I have been looking at the Aere inflatable fenders in magazines with lust. Wow it would be nice to deflate my fenders and fold them up to stow them. I like lots of fenders, and use them all. But where do you keep them when you are at sea? They consume a LOT of space. After looking at them I was impressed with their strength and ability to protect my boat. But man are they expensive! Three to four times more expensive than the price of good fenders. I just can’t justify that right now. Maybe when I have to decide between another fender, or a month’s supply of food. ;) I had to stop by my friends at the Garhauer booth. They are great people. Very knowledgeable and always willing to help get the right equipment. I don’t have bearings on my main traveler car. And when the main is pulling hard it can be impossible to adjust it. I am looking at the MT-UB-3 mainsheet traveler. Really sturdy, well built, and I like the line layout. I am thinking of adding the 30-2SP “boom vang” as the mainsheet. It has two tails. Pull one and it’s an 8 to one ratio, pull both and it’s a 4 to one ratio. COOL! However it’s only rated at 2000 lbs. I’ll have to check out the load my full main can excerpt on the mainsheet in 25 knots of wind (I normally reef at 15 knots). I am also thinking about one of the heavy duty E-Z Glide adjustable genoa car systems. Again I need to check the size of my current track as well as the load on the car from my 130% genoa with 30 knots of wind to pick which one. I hope you have enjoyed my comments about the boat show. As you can see, there is a lot of boat maintenance to come.

Boat show results

Well the Miami Strictly Sail was a busy busy day! I really needed two days to do it right. I was running all over as fast as I can and I only saw maybe a quarter of the convention center site. I did get to see all of the sailing site at Miamarina. I looked at all the major refrigeration vendors and wasn’t very impressed with their power usage, or their offerings. They all missed a few key points that I think I can do better at. Quite arrogant for a guy that only read a few books on refrigeration and never put a unit together yet. Hehe. But I am going to have a go at it. In the worst case I can always go back to buying a pre-built system later. I always come out ahead when I try to rebuild something that I’m not happy with on the boat. Sometimes I complete it just as I want. Sometimes I have to go back to a pre-built system. But I do it with a lot more knowledge than when I took on the task. And I understand how all of it works. And that’s a great thing when you are in the middle of the nowhere. I tried to talk to the Yanmar USA dealer. But they where not at the show. I did get to talk to the Yanmar SE regional dealer’s service manager. He is a great guy and has an engineer in mind the lives close to me and is very knowledgeable with exhaust systems. I’ll be sending him an e-mail in the very near future. I really can’t wait to get a new engine in the boat and running. I have a Max-Prop classic three blade 18” and dearly LOVE it! This thing is GREAT! With my new engine and transmission calculations I need between a 20” and a 22” prop. So of course I had to stop off at the MAX-Prop booth and talk to them. My one complaint was that I had to haul the boat to adjust the pitch. Well with their new MAX-Prop VP they fixed that problem. And yes they have it in a 22” three bladed model. They only had one question, how big was my prop shaft. MAN! Now that is what I like, a vendor that knows what I want and has it on the market before I know I want it. So I will be ordering one as soon as I verify my calculations on prop size, as well as check my prop shaft diameter. I will send my old MAX-Prop in and have it checked over. Then I will put it up for sale for someone else to enjoy for years to come. I have been studying the dual fuel filter setups for about two years. I had a problem with bloom in my fuel tanks two years ago. Coincidence? I think not. I really liked the Filter Boss setup since you can do so much with it. They where at the show along with almost all of their competition. After looking at them all I went back to the Filter Boss booth and purchased their DFP500FG with an added sonalert (alarm). This unit has leds that alert of a filter clogging, and if you ignore them you get an alarm before the engine stops running from fuel starvation. Then you just flip some valves and you are running on the second filter. They showed me how to change filters, bleed the new filter, all while continually running. So now I can have really crumby fuel and run all day without fear. Plus the replacement filter elements cost about $9, and my current cartridge elements cost $25. Now that’s a big difference in price! Now I can afford to keep 25 filter elements on board. I really liked that this unit has a pump in it. So while I am sailing and churning up all my fuel I can be polishing it. So as long as I am careful and filter all my fuel going into the tanks ( I have a large Baha filter for that) I shouldn’t have any more problems with fuel. (wishful thinking I know, I know but I’m trying.) They also sell some nice fuel manifolds. So I will be ordering them when I order my new engine. Right now my tanks only have one fill line and return line so they are all connected together. One has a problem, they all have a problem. And that’s a big problem. My plan is to use two manifolds to separate the tanks. I will have to find a way to add two more fill hoses and snake them up to the deck. But at least I can isolate my problems into individual tanks. So if I do get bloom or bad fuel in one tank I can run off the other tanks and have it solved at the next port. While looking for a new refrigeration system I was also looking for some 12V air conditioning. I finally came to the painful realization that it just costs so many amps to cool that much air. There is no way around it. And trying to do it in 12v just makes the problems worse. So it looks like I will be thinking air conditioning only at dock, or running the big generator. I am going to miss those fantasies of stepping down below into 76 degree air. To be honest, in all my cruising days so far I never even thought about air conditioning unless we where at dock and couldn’t point into the wind. We really didn’t need it, or miss not having it at all. So it’s one less thing to deal with right now. Onto bigger projects. I got to talk to Nance & Underwood Rigging and Sails. They have been spoken of very highly by many sailors in the Ft. Lauderdale area. So I have arranged for a meeting to discuss having them come out and check my rig for weak spots, and see if any of the standing rigging needs upgrading or replacing. They are really nice people and a joy to talk to. Plus they have some guys that sit out in front of their shop splicing line all day. If you buy your line there the splice is free. I love watching them splice really difficult line like staysetX. They make it look so easy. It’s really embarrassing. I can’t tell you how much line I have ruined trying to splice staysetX. But I will keep trying. I’ll figure it out some day. I am still going through my huge bag of literature I got at the show. I’ll have more to talk about tomorrow.

Boat Show

Well the Miami Strictly Sail boat show is tomorrow. I can’t wait. I have a long and expensive list of things to replace, upgrade, or install. I am looking for some good deals. And I really hope I find some or else I have no idea how I will afford all of this cool stuff I simply can’t live without. Hehehehe.

I do have some definite needed items.

  1. New reefer. Mine took a dump a month ago and I have been waiting for the boat show for a good deal.
  2. Yanmar engine. This has been on the list for over 4 months! Need to replace that old tired perkins 4-108.
  3. Exhaust system to go with the Yanmar.
  4. Duel fuel filter system with a valve to keep the engine running when one filter clogs.

Wants:

  1. Few multi unit AC system (24v?) Mine is just hanging on, and for a live aboard this is important.
  2. Freezer system. I hope to tie this into the new reefer compressor.
  3. Forward looking sonar. With my keel (6′ 7″) I just GOT to have this! *BIG GRIN* Honestly a deep keel in the Bahamas, and the Florida keys is a real pain. Hoping this helps me find those channels that the chart says are there. Plus it will give me that warm fuzzy going into uncharted never before seen inlets. I’ll know what’s under the water. Always a scary thing to be half way into a inlet and look down to see big boat killing boulders lying on the bottom just below your keel.
  4. New full set of sails. Yea like I have the money for that. HAHAHahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa…….
  5. New halyards. The old ones have been beat by the sun for a little too long.
  6. New SSB, with antenna tuner. My old one only receives. And that just won’t work for e-mail over SSB.
  7. Solar cells. 2x 150watt and a charger.
  8. Wind generator and a charger.
  9. 6 new 6v batteries. At least 600 amp hours total.

Look back tomorrow to find out my views of things I saw. And what I spent my hard earned money on.

Jul 1 2004 Trip to the Bahamas

Jul 1

Anya at helm of svDoric Ray dousing genaker entrance to Chub Cay Marina

08:40 Rigged for Sail -started motor -207Ahrs charging. Anya plotting course again today. Motor Sailing 2K RPM to charge.

12:20 anchor down - fortress 1 fluke in rock CQR as weight. Whale Cay -76Ahrs 25 24.610N 77 45.527W Check for snorkel / Dive site. Nothing found.

12:45 on our way again -charging again main up.

15:35 docked @ Chub Cay 25 24.698N 77 54.289W

19:20 -61Ahrs turned on AC charger.

Jun 30 2004 Trip to the Bahamas

Jun 30

Watching for coral and rocks. Ray at helm of svDoric svDoric at anchor

09:35 -68Ahrs (AD)

10:00 Started motor for departure

15:20 Anchor down & set deep- Anya dove it 9′ here 25 36.790N 77 44.035W GPS Anchor alarm set. Sailed last hour. Passed island & had to run back.

21:20 -155Ahrs tightened Alt belt. 66A @2K no squeal :-) Yeay! Can charge while motoring.